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Re: Knights Templar seek papal apology for 700 years of persecution
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by GwydionCaithnes (donbernardo@sbcglobal.net)
on Dec 07, 2004 - 05:17 PM
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The Pope did indeed condemn the Order. In his bull "Faciens Misericordiam," he informed the English clergy that he believed the accusations made by the French king. Clearly, Clement was acting under the thumb of Philip, but he did act - and it was at his behest that Edward of England and other European sovereigns seized Templar assets, imprisoned them for the inquisitors, etc.
I want my reparations...! :-)
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RE: AN APOLOGY IS JUSTIFIED
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by the_insider on Dec 09, 2004 - 04:32 AM
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I must correct "Tigernach" on a number of very important points:-
1. The Pope and Vatican are not blameless. He did not defend the Order, but passed a bill to dissolve it. He held a secret trial in which the Templars were declared innocent, but the Vatican never released fact secret and the documents. An apology from the present Vatican leadership to the present Templar leadership is the very least effort that one would expect to correct one of the greatest injustices in history.
2. There is no grievance with France. The king died soon after the Grand Master. He tried to destroy the Templars, but a few centuries later his own kin were destroyed in the Revolution. As the last member of the French monarchy was executed, legend has it that there was a cry from the crowd: "De Molay, thou art avenged."
3. The Order that has issued the request is nothing to do with any known Templar group, hence the Vatican do take it "seriously".
4. It is a matter of historical fact that the vast majority of Templars either escaped or at least survived the persecution. You cannot seriously be suggesting that the Templars, one of the largest and most powerful institutions of their time, whose devoted members swore to die for the cause, just vanished into thin air, and every last member just gave up, went home and forgot about the whole thing.
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